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PostSubject: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 19:50

In order to forum a more perfect constitution, we need to get gray areas filled out.

We need suggestions on the following:


  1. The [SOMETHING] of Hyrule
  2. Legislative Body needs a name
  3. Should we change election periods
  4. Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 20:51

1.The Confederation of Hyrule, although I would much like a creative mind to think of something that would spell out HERO or something. Smile

2.“The Senate” I don’t see anything wrong with that…

3. Perhaps we should maybe make each term only 2 months and have 6 elections during the year. That way all of the people that come and go can have a say or be a government official, but should they leave it wont hinder the government as their term would still go for two more months or something like that.

4.Nope! Just come up with a creative name for number 1!
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 21:14

1. Commonwealth of Hyrule

2. The Senate

3. Current election cycle (like that of the old forum) is adequate and does not need to be changed. A shorter term would be useless and would not allow an individual to properly establish themselves into the position.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 22:39

Porcu wrote:
1. Commonwealth of Hyrule

2. The Senate

3. Current election cycle (like that of the old forum) is adequate and does not need to be changed. A shorter term would be useless and would not allow an individual to properly establish themselves into the position.

I think that two months is enough time to accomplish anything really. Think about it. It hasnt even been two months since we have started the new forums, and already we have made it to where we are. And that is making everyythingg..when your a minister, your limited to doing what your jobs are...

EDIT: Perhaps we should consider the "dead" zones in NS, for example when school starts or whatever. Summer is always busier as people are siting around. So during the summer we have 2 month terms, during the more dead times, we have three/four month terms so that we dont have elections with no voters...if this makes sense to everyone lol
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 23:44

1: Republic of Hyrule

2: Community Senate (or Senate lol but I want to put more community and cut out the need for elected positions. We could still have the President of the Senate to be an elected position to moderate the process. We need to really talk about this subject.)

3: Metz, that's actually a pretty good idea for deadzone times. This is actually the busiest summer I have ever seen in NS.

4: I want to start a RP to choose the next RP Mod. What is the feeling on this?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 3 Aug 2009 - 23:55

South Malaysia wrote:
1: Republic of Hyrule

2: Community Senate (or Senate lol but I want to put more community and cut out the need for elected positions. We could still have the President of the Senate to be an elected position to moderate the process. We need to really talk about this subject.)

3: Metz, that's actually a pretty good idea for deadzone times. This is actually the busiest summer I have ever seen in NS.

4: I want to start a RP to choose the next RP Mod. What is the feeling on this?

1-I like it
2. I like Community Senate, just because it gives the idea that anyone can be involved
3. hopefully future summers will get better and better, but we also need to actually decide which months the deadzone times are
4. I'm all for it to be honest....I think thats the best way to do it at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyTue 4 Aug 2009 - 6:56

I'm sorry, but "Community Senate" sounds like a place for retirees or mentally-handicapped individuals.

Am I correct in guessing that this Senate will be a place for entire, community discussion? If so, I don't think you need to explicitly state it in the name. I believe providing a simple but straightforward description about how the Senate (or whatever we decide on) is a place where everyone gathers. I do believe we should have at least one elected position to manage discussion.

As for an RP to decide RP Minister...Bring it on.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyTue 4 Aug 2009 - 10:09

Maybe The Hyrulean Assembly or Assembly.

But yes, modeling the old ancient House of Members.

Then we can keep President of the b l a n k (or another name if one is discovered)
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyTue 4 Aug 2009 - 10:48

The deadzone idea is great (even if for the fact that even though I'm in 10th grade I'm pretty much active all year round Thumbs Up) we should have the elections coincide with the big breaks, and have the different term names for each one: Such as Beginning of school to winter break is fall term, winter break to spring break is winter term, spring break to summer vacation is spring term. (If anyone actually got that, sweet!)
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 0:58

What about something like the "Hyrulean International Pact" or "HIP" as the name for the constitution or whatever...idk, its something a little more creative lol

Although I may be confused as to if we are naming the Document or the Technical name for the region of Hyrule itself....or does teh document name the region Weirded Out??
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 7:06

We're naming the region, but the document will make that name official once it's ratified.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 7:42

How about the Hyrulean Treaty Organization? Very Happy

On a serious note, I do like "The Assembly" for the name of the all-inclusive legislative body.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 13:28

I think there needs to be somethng more added to "The Assembly" such as "The National Assembly" or "The Assemly of Nations" or "The Governing Assembly" or something...
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 19:09

So where's everybody else? Confused

I'm pretty sure this concerns them as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 19:22

Porcu wrote:
So where's everybody else? Confused

I'm pretty sure this concerns them as well.

I made an "Update TG" that SM is currently editing, in which I will send out to all memer nations of hyrule soon letting them know whats going on. Feel free to chack in out in the MoI forums. Its another something new that added to the ministry to help try and get more people on the forums. I will try and send one out once a month or every other month, kind of like a Foriegn Embassy update, except its to update our own members. So hopefully after they recive that we will get a few more people on here....
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 5 Aug 2009 - 19:29

I'm here too, with my humorous take on things, as usual...

  1. The Angelically Illuminated Kingdom-Empire of the Great Eternal People's Region of Hyrule ... or just "Hyrule" or the "Region of Hyrule" (why be so specific?)
  2. "The Parliament" / "The Assembly" / "The Senate" ... in fact, nothing too fancy, just straightforward. But if I were the God-EMperor, I'd choose the People's Governing Body of the Grand Chamber of Hyrule
  3. Deadzone FTW!
  4. If we are to separate the region's government and the forum's administration, we should also be able to elect our (global) forum moderators. In this case, ministers are only mods to their specific subforum.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptySun 9 Aug 2009 - 9:48

Regarding the 4th idea, I think SM's plan for the prime minister is that of an elected global forum moderator (although that position should be titled Global Moderator, accordingly Tongue Out).
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 10 Aug 2009 - 10:40

Ness Snorlaxia wrote:
Regarding the 4th idea, I think SM's plan for the prime minister is that of an elected global forum moderator (although that position should be titled Global Moderator, accordingly Tongue Out).

Well the PM is the Head of Government so everything dealing with government they can moderate.

Culture Mod is still left in limbo and RP Mod might be voted upon every 6 months in the admin section. I'm still debating on my next move. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 10 Aug 2009 - 11:00

1. If we're into recursive acronyms, sort of: "Hyrule of Yesteryear Reborn Under Legislative Equality (HYRULE)"
2. The Hyrulian Senate, since the WA already has Assembly and being original is fun!

And may I suggest some constitution/treaty text?

The Nations of Hyrule, hereby gathered, do invest their powers into a Senate of one delegate for each Nation, presided over by a Prime Minister elected by and from the body thereof.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptySun 16 Aug 2009 - 18:33

We need to get this moving forward! I'll post a revised draft of Preamble and Article I sometime tonight or monday.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyTue 18 Aug 2009 - 9:36

I agree with most of the drafted constitution, including the need for "deadzone" extensions for ministerial positions. Noting the absence of a RP minister, who is to run that section should the position not be available in time for the next elections?
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyTue 18 Aug 2009 - 18:30

That's because Role Play is an administrative thing. It needs to be selected with care and not elected.

So I will just have to start making my choice. Have people sign up that want to be RP Mod and start a RP with them. I'll make a thread later this week.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyWed 19 Aug 2009 - 16:26

Porcu wrote:
I'm sorry, but "Community Senate" sounds like a place for retirees or mentally-handicapped individuals.
Agreed. I propose "The Supreme Soviet" or "Council of the Elders" or "The Supreme Council"
...and... "The Hyrulean Confederation."

...so that I might say that the Technocratic Union is a member of the Hyrulean Confederation, governed by the Supreme Council. Sounds kinda nice....
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyThu 20 Aug 2009 - 19:01

The official naming is being voted upon right now. In the Art. 1/Preamble drafting thread, btw.
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PostSubject: Re: Lets fill in the blank!   Lets fill in the blank! EmptyMon 12 Oct 2009 - 23:21

well when ever it becomes available...i would like to be minister of justice or minister of roleplaying or minister of overthrow lol
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